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Aug. 19th, 2005 11:14 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
stormdogI have my new router installed. I'm going to write about it now. Feel free to skip. Otherwise .
I have my new Netgear router installed and running, and I rather like it. It's got more menu bells and wistles than the old Linksys did. I can set it up to email me logs on a set schedule. I can block specific sites from specific internal IPs and have the router email me when someone tries to access a blocked site. I can't see ever using such heavy-handed censorship features, even if I had kids, but it's kind of fun to have access to them. I have wireless config options (802.11b, g, and the double-speed 108Mbps g). This thing will even run RIP! I haven't played with that since my Cisco classes and it's really odd to see it on a consumer router. I'm going to enjoy playing with it.
Since it has an integrated four-port switch, I took my eight port unit out of the system and put my five port unit in across the room on my worktable. I've got my 8-port available to be portable (if I ever go to a LAN party again that would be nice: anyone?) and still have plenty of ports in the computer room.
When I get around to it, I'm going to try out the wireless with the ipaq that I borrowed from work. (I still haven't quite told them that I managed to crack the screen on it somehow. It shouldn't be a big deal because it's an obsolete/non-deployable model [that's why I was allowed to mess around with it] and I've talked to people who've done things like spill soda on their laptops or break their screens which is a much bigger expense, but I'm kind of embarrassed about it.)
At the moment, I'm trying to figure out the networking structure though. All my local machines are on the 192.168.0.0 subnet, which is perfectly fine. From there it gets confusing.
My network goes like this: Cable line -> VoIP router -> Netgear consumer router -> internal network.
Now, my VoIP router shows the following config:
WAN IP address: 65.31.112.98
WAN Network Mask: 255.255.252.0
Default gateway: 65.31.112.1
Primary DNS: 24.94.163.227
Secondary DNS: 24.160.227.33
No problem.
However, my Netgear router shows this config:
Internet Port
MAC Address 00:0F:B5:68:59:27
IP Address 65.31.112.98
DHCP DHCPClient
IP Subnet Mask 255.255.252.0
Domain Name Server 24.94.163.227
24.160.227.33
LAN Port
MAC Address 00:0F:B5:68:59:26
IP Address 192.168.0.1
DHCP ON
IP Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
How can both routers have the same IP address? I know how that can happen if one device is operating purely on level 2, like a switch, but I don't understand how it can work with two level three devices. Doesn't the VoIP router need it's own IP to do it's thing? In fact, going by the somewhat obfuscatory documentation accompying the VoIP router, I think it's internal port should be in the 192.168.10.0 network since it is accessable through the IP address 192.168.10.1 (which doesn't work when I try it, though it did before I put my new router onto the system) and my Netgear router should be pulling a DHCP address from it in the same range so that it's essentially doing a double NAT with only one client behind the outside NAT.
Anyone have any ideas on this behavior? Maybe I'll ask in![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
hardware too...
Oh: and you know how when you're driving around with a wireless device, you find all those networks with the stupid default names that nobody bothers to change? Come on by my friends, and tune your laptops to 'Radio Free Stormdog'.
I have my new Netgear router installed and running, and I rather like it. It's got more menu bells and wistles than the old Linksys did. I can set it up to email me logs on a set schedule. I can block specific sites from specific internal IPs and have the router email me when someone tries to access a blocked site. I can't see ever using such heavy-handed censorship features, even if I had kids, but it's kind of fun to have access to them. I have wireless config options (802.11b, g, and the double-speed 108Mbps g). This thing will even run RIP! I haven't played with that since my Cisco classes and it's really odd to see it on a consumer router. I'm going to enjoy playing with it.
Since it has an integrated four-port switch, I took my eight port unit out of the system and put my five port unit in across the room on my worktable. I've got my 8-port available to be portable (if I ever go to a LAN party again that would be nice: anyone?) and still have plenty of ports in the computer room.
When I get around to it, I'm going to try out the wireless with the ipaq that I borrowed from work. (I still haven't quite told them that I managed to crack the screen on it somehow. It shouldn't be a big deal because it's an obsolete/non-deployable model [that's why I was allowed to mess around with it] and I've talked to people who've done things like spill soda on their laptops or break their screens which is a much bigger expense, but I'm kind of embarrassed about it.)
At the moment, I'm trying to figure out the networking structure though. All my local machines are on the 192.168.0.0 subnet, which is perfectly fine. From there it gets confusing.
My network goes like this: Cable line -> VoIP router -> Netgear consumer router -> internal network.
Now, my VoIP router shows the following config:
WAN IP address: 65.31.112.98
WAN Network Mask: 255.255.252.0
Default gateway: 65.31.112.1
Primary DNS: 24.94.163.227
Secondary DNS: 24.160.227.33
No problem.
However, my Netgear router shows this config:
Internet Port
MAC Address 00:0F:B5:68:59:27
IP Address 65.31.112.98
DHCP DHCPClient
IP Subnet Mask 255.255.252.0
Domain Name Server 24.94.163.227
24.160.227.33
LAN Port
MAC Address 00:0F:B5:68:59:26
IP Address 192.168.0.1
DHCP ON
IP Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
How can both routers have the same IP address? I know how that can happen if one device is operating purely on level 2, like a switch, but I don't understand how it can work with two level three devices. Doesn't the VoIP router need it's own IP to do it's thing? In fact, going by the somewhat obfuscatory documentation accompying the VoIP router, I think it's internal port should be in the 192.168.10.0 network since it is accessable through the IP address 192.168.10.1 (which doesn't work when I try it, though it did before I put my new router onto the system) and my Netgear router should be pulling a DHCP address from it in the same range so that it's essentially doing a double NAT with only one client behind the outside NAT.
Anyone have any ideas on this behavior? Maybe I'll ask in
hardware too...Oh: and you know how when you're driving around with a wireless device, you find all those networks with the stupid default names that nobody bothers to change? Come on by my friends, and tune your laptops to 'Radio Free Stormdog'.
